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The 3.7 HAA Gun in Action !
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The 3.7 HAA Gun in action.

 

 The guns' ceiling was 13,666 yards (7.75 miles), and it weighed 9.17 tons.

 
 

The 3.7inch HAA Gun

 

 

The 3.7-Inch QF AA was Britain's equivalent of the German 88 mm FlaK anti-aircraft gun during World War II. It remained in use after the war until AA guns were replaced by guided missiles

History

The 3.7 inch gun entered service in 1937 and sufficient stocks were ready by the start of the war. The weapon was either used as a static mount or on a mobile mount. The mobile mount used a cruciform set of legs for stability in the deployed position. To move, the legs were folded in and a pair of road wheels lowered. The gun would then be hitched to an AEC Matador gun tractor. There were 4 production "Marks" of the gun. The first 3 were similar, with slight differences between them. The major development of the gun was the increased performance delivered by adding an automatic fuze-setter and an automatic loader. This achieved two things; firstly the rate of fire was improved, secondly the variations inherent in manual loading and fuze setting were eliminated and the guns could work better with the predictor data. The guns fitted out with these improvements were given the designation Mk IIIA.

 

The fourth variant, described below, used a longer barrel and a different mounting.

Variants

Mk I

Mk II

Slightly different to the Mk 1 in build up of breech and barrel. Manufactured in the UK by Vickers-Armstrong until 1943 when production was taken on by Canada as the 3.7-Inch AA Mark II C

Mk III

A marriage of Mk I breech and Mk III barrel, also built by Vickers-Armstrong but in limited numbers.

Mk IV

A prototype development of the 3.7 by using the Naval QF 4.5 inch Mark V gun with a liner to give a gun using a 4.5 inch size shell cartridge case to drive the 3.7 inch shell . Dropped in favour of the Mk VI.

Mk V

Another prototype deveolped at the same time using the same principle as the Mk IV. Project had the same fate as the Mk IV.

Mark VI

Using a Naval 5.25 inch mount and a longer 3.7 inch barrel as a starting point, at the Royal Arsenal, Woolwich, Colonel Probert developed a barrel with a special rifling. Over the last five calibres of the barrel before the muzzle, the rifling gradually disappeared. This smoothed the driving bands of the shell flush for superior aerodynamic shape and hence better ballistic performance. The ceiling for the gun was somewhere around 18,000 metres.

Due to the heavy 4.5 inch carriage, a towed version was too expensive to develop and they were deployed as static emplacements only. They were part of the UK's air defence in 1944 and were kept till 1959.

Anti-tank capability

The 3.7-inch gun was never used as an anti-tank weapon, except in one or two emergencies. This is in contrast to the German Army, which integrated their equivalent "88" into anti-tank defensive screens from 1940 onwards.

One reason was organisational; Heavy AA Regiments equipped with the 3.7-inch gun were controlled by Corps or Army HQ, or at even higher level HQ's, and command of them was not often devolved to the commanders at Divisional levels.

A more telling reason was that the 3.7-inch gun mobile mounting was almost twice as heavy as the German "88". Redeploying it was a slower operation and the heavy AEC Matador truck which was normally required to tow it could operate on roads or hard surfaces only.

Prolonged firing at low elevations (not part of the original specification) also strained the mounting and recuperating gear.

The ordnance was nevertheless used as the basis for the 32-pounder anti-tank gun, the primary armament of the Tortoise assault tank: a form of self-propelled gun, which never saw service.

 

 

Type

anti-aircraft gun

Place of origin

UK

Service history

In service

1937-1959

Used by

UK and Commonwealth

Wars

Second World War

Production history

Designed

1937

Produced

1937 -

Specifications

Weight

20,541 lb (9,317 kg)

Length

4.96 m

Barrel length

/L50 185 inches (4.7 metres)

Crew

7


Shell

28 lb (12.7 kg)

Calibre

3.7 inches (94 mm)

Carriage

Mobile and static versions

Rate of fire

10/20 rpm

Muzzle velocity

792 m/s

Maximum range

Maximum horizontal 18,800 m
Maximum slant 12,000 m
Ceiling 9,000 m

 

 

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The 3.7 inch anti-aircraft gun from 1943. It was developed in 1934 by Vickers Armstrong Limited, and delivered to the Army in 1938. There were many different versions and it was considered as Britain's answer to the German 88mm.

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The 3.7 HAA Gun in action.

 

 The guns' ceiling was 13,666 yards (7.75 miles), and it weighed 9.17 tons.

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The 3.7 HAA Gun in action.
The 3.7 inch gun, which fired a 28 pound shell. A good crew, which consisted of up to14 men, could put up 10 rounds a minute or more.

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QF 3.7-in Heavy Anti-aircraft Gun

The first British equipment designed specifically for the anti-aircraft role, i.e. not a converted field or coast gun, was the QF 3-in 20-cwt. Introduced in March 1914 it was supplied to both Navy and Army, and remained in service until the early years of World War 2.

Four equipments on mobile mountings were obtained for the New Zealand Army in 1935 but were cut up and sold as scrap iron after World War 2. The writer obtained the breech mechanism and part of the barrel of one for use as an aid in teaching basic principles of gun construction at the School of Artillery in 1953, but following a change of staff the aid was scrapped in 1958.

After World War 1 further development of heavy anti-aircraft equipments virtually ceased in Britain. As well as a lack of money there existed among the diehards a school of thought which maintained that the proper way to combat enemy aircraft was by other aircraft, i.e. the RAF, and that the AA gun had been nothing but a temporary stopgap produced by wartime conditions. Although a 3.7 gun was first proposed in 1928, little progress seems to have been made in the years immediately following.

QF 3.7-in heavy anti-aircraft gun

Fig. 1: QF 3.7-in heavy anti-aircraft gun on mobile mounting. The Mark 2 was designed for a static mounting for use in fixed defences

 

But from 1933 great advances were being made in aircraft design and the heights which bombers could achieve - from 20,000 feet (6096 metres) upwards. Bearing in mind the maximum ceiling of the 3-inch 20 cwt was 23,500 feet (7010 m) under ideal conditions, obviously a heavier gun was needed.

The 3.7 was introduced in 1937, fortunately allowing enough time for production to get under way before the outbreak of World War 2. It fired a 28-lb (12.72 kg) shell to a ceiling of 32,000 feet (9754 m), a significant improvement on the 3-inch.

During the war an automatic fuze-setter (MFS No 11) and an automatic loader were fitted. These not only speeded up the rate of fire, but by eliminating variations in time taken by individuals in loading and fuze-setting, enabled guns to follow data supplied by predictor more closely. Thus the new machinery not only increased the rate of fire from 10 to 20 rpm, but also improved accuracy. Guns so equipped were designated Mark 3A.

QF 3.7-in gun on static mounting

Fig. 2: QF 3.7-in gun on static mounting, ie designed to be bolted down to a concrete foundation.

 

But as World War 2 progressed, and bombers flew ever higher, still more effective equipment was demanded to cope with them. Experiments with a proposed 4.7-inch gun were not successful so in 1941 a number of Naval QF 4.5-in guns were obtained, the barrels lined down to 3.7, but the original chamber retained so that a 4.5 cartridge could be fired. This combination sent the same 28-lb shell to 45,000 feet (13,776 metres).

QF 3.7-in Mark 3A
Fig. 3: QF 3.7 gun showing additional automatic loading and fuze-setting equipment. This was the Mark 3A. 
 

To increase the performance of the 4.5/3.7 combination Colonel Probert of the Research Department, Woolwich Arsenal, developed a special barrel in which the rifling gradually decreased in depth from the breech to five calibres from the muzzle where it disappeared altogether and the barrel became smooth-bored. In addition to a heavier driving band the projectile was fitted with 'steadying bands' near the shoulder. The smooth-bore section of the barrel swaged down the driving and steadying bands flush with the surface of the shell, thus improving its ballistic qualities. See Fig. 4 .

Probert system
Fig. 4: The Probert system of rifling, as in the Mark 6 3.7 gun.

The precise ceiling achieved by the Mk 6 gun is not known but is believed to have been over 50,000 feet (15,240 metres).

In the latter stages of World War 2 the Allies enjoyed air superiority, so a number of 3.7 guns were converted to fire. in the field role in which they performed satisfactorily - where crest clearance was no problem. The late WO1(SMIG) JT (Terry) Transom and the writer converted a 3.7 at the School of Artillery in 1956. A QF 4.5-in howitzer sight-supporting pintle was welded to the top of the traversing gear column, and on the pintle was attached a 4.5 sight bracket with a dial sight. On the elevation side of the gun a sight clinometer was attached to indicate elevation. The combination worked very well but unfortunately the fire of 1957 which destroyed the 4.5 sight brackets ended further practice.

In the end jet-propelled aircraft won the day; they could fly at heights no gun could reach. Thus heavy anti-aircraft guns began to be phased out in 1958.

 

The New Zealand Army received 3.7 guns after the outbreak of World War 2. In 1962 TF anti-aircraft units were disbanded and their guns relegated to other roles. LAA (40-mm) guns were handed over to the Navy, although a need for them still existed in the Army. The 3.7s were issued to Coast Artillery Cadres in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to form mobile examination batteries. For this role they were stripped of their automatic fuze-setters and loading gear, so they resembled the originals of 1937. In 1967 Coast Cadres were disbanded and their guns donated to museums, RSAs etc or scrapped. The gun in the Army Museum is one of them.

The role of the heavy AA gun has been assumed by the SAM (Surface to Air Missile), with which a number of countries are well-equipped. Where are New Zealand's SAMS? The Germans recognised a good gun when they saw one; after the BEF debacle in France in 1940 they converted to their own use a number of captured 3.7 guns which their detachments had failed to destroy. They even produced ammunition for them.

QF 3.7-in Mark 6
Fig. 5: QF 3.7-in Mark 6.

 

GENERAL DATA:

Calibre: 3.7 inches (94 mm)
Length of barrel: 185 inches (4.7 metres)
Weight: 20,541 lbs (8392 kg)
Shell weight: 28 lbs (12.6 kg)
Rate of fire: 20 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 792 m/s
Maximum horizontal range: 18,800 metres
Maximum effective slant range: 12,000 m
Ceiling: 9,000 m
Number in detachment: 7

The last of the 3.7s

Fig. 6: 'Longhand,' the last of the 3.7s. With automatic ammunition feed, it could reach a rate of fire of 60 rpm. However, within weeks of its being approved the guided missile, made it obsolete.

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